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[bug]Cant talk, cant steal, cant E with NPC

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Laclongquan
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[bug]Cant talk, cant steal, cant E with NPC

Post by Laclongquan » Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:55 am

I am currently running out of Taft Tunnel into Citadel and realize this bug is a game breaker. @Roybatty @Pintocat @Risewild

If I stand in the open, Dr Li can only talk with the intercom once and stopped, cant continue. Likely because the activator of intercom realize me and change to angry state and cant continue to talk. If I hid from faraway, the script run normally and Li shout to open the door and enter the Citadel.

However, when I run after the group to inside. Li move forward (likely to initiate dialog) but dont, and turn to angry state. Elder Lyons move toward the group (likely to initiate dialog) but dont, and turn to angry state.

I can crouch and E (steal) others like Daniel, Garza normally, talk to them normally. But I cant talk or steal Elder Lyons. the old man and Paladin Lyons faces are angry.

What is this bug and how can I bypass it, fix it, prevent it?

(Weirdly enough I can talk to Paladin Bael at Citadel gate normally)
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second case, Temple of Union become very hostile toward me after a short while.
When I get to ToU, the gate keeper talk to me like normal. But after unlocking the door, a short while later, she become hostile, all the ToU too, and start shooting, along with the dog and brahmin charging~
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ONE, very unstable, way to bypass this is to max Sneak then use stealthboy. So with me completely hidden, the dialog between Elder and Li happen normally, then somehow I can talk to Elder, Li, Sarah once... Only once, because after that they turn back to angry state and I cant E them any more. this go for all BOS in the courtyard, you can see their angry faces.

Sometimes, the stealth state show that I can talk to an NPC, but when uncrouch to talk to him, that would change to angry state, so you can see that it being unstable.

EDITY EDIT: I found a semi reliable way to circumvent this situation. While using a chinese stealth armor (with stealth field active). click on the targeted NPC. Console
setav aggression 0
This will remove aggression state and they resume to perform their ai package at that time. Now if you check with E you can see it's stealable, meaning it's talkable. stand to talk very quickly before their AI change to aggression state. After talking they will return to aggressive state.
At least this way we know how to bypass the bug. A bit. For a while.

Cause of bug still unknown. Way to fix it: unknown.
(the only 2 suspicion is The Pitt DLC, have some unknown unfavourable influence, and so affect slave/slaver and possibly Outcast faction. That and Anchorage DLC, with more mods, affect Outcast faction only.)

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Re: [bug]Cant talk, cant steal, cant E with NPC

Post by Laclongquan » Thu Sep 07, 2023 2:34 pm

I am pretty sure the problem is scripts running (or not) and AI packages running (or not). I try setally playerfaction nameofcertainfaction and that doesnt work.

Those scripts make certain NPC in certain factions angry at me. But certain NPCs in those other factions not angry and interact normally.

Using chinese stealth armor's stealth field (or stealthboy) I can sneak into a cell that the important NPC hasnt get their script change to angry at me. then when standing up to talk, their scripts havent been changed, so they can talk to me normally. For that moment. Which is why I talk to certain characters in Citadel to get the clue to find V87.

Little Lamplight doesnt have any problem.

V87, The Super Mutant in the room doesnt have problem, but when release, does bug up. But I use the stealth trick above and get him to follow (mostly because I dont want him to stay here since I dont plan to return).

Eden super AI doesnt have a problem. I convince it/him to suicide and he promise to do so once I get out. That mean quite a few enclave troopers outside of Raven Rocks fighting with that Super Mutant (armed with Gatling Laser). the SM does bug up though. I ignore him and leave.

Stealth up to trigger Lyons conversation. Stealth up all the time to carry Sarah and the robot to the fight. Judicious prid id of Prime Optimus to "moveto player " it to where can break the force field, as well as Sarah.

Stealth up to talk with Autumn. Sarah does speak normally at that time. Turn off Hard core and sacrifice Maria.

Change to Broken Steel, everything still bug up.

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