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A most peculiar thing just happened

Post by doggie015 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:01 am

I had Fawkes and Raul as companions. Life was good, until I travelled to Point Lookout.

When I came back to the capitol wasteland, I visited the museum of history only to find Fawkes shooting up the place, he seemed to have lost his mind and I ended up having to put him down. Then I went into the Underworld and Raul starting shooting up the place, so, for the safety of the other ghouls, he also had to fall.

WTF happened to my companions while I was away?!

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Re: A most peculiar thing just happened

Post by RoyBatty » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:26 am

Are you using JIPCCC by chance? I had this happen more than once and there's at least 2 other reports of this. It seems random.
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Re: A most peculiar thing just happened

Post by doggie015 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:43 am

RoyBatty wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:26 am
Are you using JIPCCC by chance? I had this happen more than once and there's at least 2 other reports of this. It seems random.
Yes, I am. I'm not entirely sure how it would cause my companions to go insane.

Lore wise, I have already written Fawkes off as the primal part of him finally managing to pull him away, and Raul just snapped.

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Re: A most peculiar thing just happened

Post by UsagiPyon » Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:12 am

doggie015 wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:01 am
I had Fawkes and Raul as companions. Life was good, until I travelled to Point Lookout.

When I came back to the capitol wasteland, I visited the museum of history only to find Fawkes shooting up the place, he seemed to have lost his mind and I ended up having to put him down. Then I went into the Underworld and Raul starting shooting up the place, so, for the safety of the other ghouls, he also had to fall.

WTF happened to my companions while I was away?!
That is interesting information. I have to look out for those two then :D However I have this happening on other companions randomly turning aggressive after they are fired (I'm assuming that is your case) which I read was a vanilla bug that you just have to use console, select that particular companon and set av aggression to 0
Only mods altering companions I have is JIP C&C and TTW followers go home(?)

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Re: A most peculiar thing just happened

Post by RoyBatty » Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:03 am

This is a strange bug and I've had it happen in DM with GOD/DOG, reloading a save and going through that part again fixed it. Setting aggression to 0 did not work, nor did stopcombatalarmonactor which is very odd.

Someone else reported it with dogmeat.

in Fallout 3 this would happen with RL3 when you are abducted in Raven Rock , but that was because he would stay frenzied.
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Re: A most peculiar thing just happened

Post by mike307 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:31 pm

Just in case it's relevant.
I had a similar issue with Star Paladin cross - Had her with me in vault 87 until I was abducted. On returning to the Citadel I found her engaged i a firefight with the rest of the Lab occupants. On reloading, it was fine again.
I am not using JIPCCC.

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Re: A most peculiar thing just happened

Post by arcain782 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:21 pm

setav aggression 0 to make him not want to kill everything in sight

Found that solution posted in a reddit thread and it worked for me. I had Raul spazzing out and this calmed his ass down so I could re-recruit him successfully. I returned his aggression value to 3 after (what it was before).

EDIT: Looked up aggression out of curiosity and this page on GECK wiki seems to suggest companion aggression should not be higher than 1.
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Re: A most peculiar thing just happened

Post by RoyBatty » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:48 am

Are you using BLEED by chance?
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Re: A most peculiar thing just happened

Post by arcain782 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:15 am

Yup. So far i haven't had any other issues with BLEED in my TTW play-through. 58hrs in. Have yet to complete FO3 main quest but have completed several DLCs and traversed back and forth between Mojave and DC several times without any serious issues.

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Re: A most peculiar thing just happened

Post by RoyBatty » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:11 am

I'm pretty sure now the issue is with bleed and I need to add some stuff to the firing scripts to a) clear any DoT effects and b) reset aggression
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