New Vegas-style Speech Checks for Fallout 3 Content UPDATED 03/30/2014

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New Vegas-style Speech Checks for Fallout 3 Content UPDATED 03/30/2014

Post by retlaw83 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:23 am

Name isn't snappy, but it's the best name to use. This creates NV-style speech checks for Fallout 3, and the plan is to eventually put these changes into TTW itself once we get feedback. There are different kinds of skill checks, not just speech, and successful checks award XP.  A few things to keep in mind:


1) Most of the speech check success lines have been altered to sound more in-line with NV's tone.  The original lines are typically used for speech failures.


2) Some things that used to be speech checks are now barter checks, and occasionally science/repair checks.  This has been done at appropriate places, for example when the player negotiates a price.


3) Due to a lack of usable sound files ingame, most stat and skill checks that are not speech or barter do not have fail options.


4) Virtually all fail options and some successes do not have sound.  This is because in the future, the TTW installer should take care of this.


We're trying to get feedback on appropriateness of skill check levels and writing style.  If something doesn't work correctly, or you disagree with a check value or the way something is written, take a screenshot and post it here with your feedback.


CHANGELOG:


03/30/2014: So, yeah. Been 3 months. Fixed all issues reported and The Replicated Man checks now act like NV checks.


12/20/2013: Fixed 3 speech checks for 3 lies to Moira, and a missing condition on the fail for the check with Sapling Yew.


12/12/2013: Fixed a speech check failure not showing the pass requirement when talking to Dave.


12/07/2013: Fixed a medicine check and an explosive check with Reilly not giving XP.


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TJ
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I'm testing it retlaw.

Post by TJ » Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:29 pm

I'm testing it retlaw.


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Only have done the ones with

Post by chucksteel » Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:35 pm

Only have done the ones with Moira but they seem nice. yes



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Wow, thats areally great step

Post by Delphi » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:58 pm

Wow, thats areally great step forward. I will test this asap! Thanks for doing this :)

If it is not too much to ask, I would have one (of course optional) request. There is a great mod called "No dialog tags", which makes the actual needed checks and values invisible(for new vegas). This greatly reduces metagaming and min- maxing.

Would it be possible to develop this mod with an optional support for this in mind?

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The only way to do that,

Post by retlaw83 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:32 pm

The only way to do that, unless the guy is doing something I'm unaware of, would require editing every single dialog that's been changed. That's not something that would be a possibility until this is all finalized and merged into TTW.


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Now that I managed to install

Post by Risewild » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:43 pm

Now that I managed to install TTW again I can test this out laugh will be back with news about it later yes.



Deathclawlove
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Wait... Does this make

Post by Deathclawlove » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:51 pm

Wait... Does this make Fallout 3 dialogue a pass or fail instead of the original percent speech checks?



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Yes.

Post by retlaw83 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:01 am

Yes.


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Ok in my very short testing

Post by Risewild » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:23 am

Ok in my very short testing time I did just now the speech checks in Megaton I checked were all good to go laugh I still have a couple of checks on Megaton that I need to test but for now I say I found no problems.



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Wasn't the percent way of

Post by Deathclawlove » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:28 am

Wasn't the percent way of speech better???  It gave it more immersion by saying even if you didn't have the speech there's still a possibility of passing the check? Maybe it's just me.



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