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Freff
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Loading screen crashes and freezes

Post by Freff » Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:38 pm

Hello, I am having some troubles getting TTW to work with my mod list. I am getting frequent crashing or freezing during loading screens in megaton. It seems to work with only TTW installed so it is probably some incompatibilities with some of my mods or my load order.


My specs: Windows 10, AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight - Core Processor 3.40 GHz, 16gb RAM


I have tried with MO v.1.3.11 and FOMM 0.14.13


[collapsed title=Load Order] FalloutNV.esm




  • DeadMoney.esm


  • HonestHearts.esm


  • OldWorldBlues.esm


  • LonesomeRoad.esm


  • GunRunnersArsenal.esm


  • Fallout3.esm


  • Anchorage.esm


  • ThePitt.esm


  • BrokenSteel.esm


  • PointLookout.esm


  • Zeta.esm


  • taleoftwowastelands.esm


  • TTWFixes.esm


  • Sortomatic.esm


  • SomeguySeries.esm


  • Afterschool Special.esm


  • NewVegasRailroads.esm


  • Run the Lucky 38.esm


  • Niner.esm


  • NVWillow.esp


  • Project Nevada - Core.esm


  • Project Nevada - Equipment.esm


  • Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp


  • Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp


  • Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm


  • The Mod Configuration Menu.esp


  • Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp


  • Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp


  • Project Nevada - All DLC.esp


  • TTW_SpeechChecks.esp


  • TTW_NoKarmaDCFollowers.esp


  • TTW_StartupMenu.esp


  • The Lucky 38 Empire.esp


  • TheInheritance.esp


  • Russell.esp


  • NewVegasBounties.esp


  • NewVegasBountiesII.esp


  • KingOfTheRing.esp


  • CheckpointGary.esp


  • MTB.esp


  • CASM with MCM.esp


  • JIP Companions Command & Control.esp


  • OdiossModWornBackpack.esp


  • Project Nevada - TTW.esp


  • TTWVaultSuitHotfix.esp


Total active plugins: 46 Total plugins: 52  


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The symptoms are crashing/freezing during/after loading screens, they do not occur with only TTW installed as far as I know


Fallout 3 version is the game of the year editon from steam.


Finally could some one explain how I can be sure if the BSA'S are loaded in the correct order in MO as it is said in one of the sticky posts in the support forums.


Thanks


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jlf65
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Be sure you have the latest

Post by jlf65 » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:32 pm

Be sure you have the latest NVSE, NVAC, NVSR, and JIP LN. Use one of the nvsr ini files from the performance thread. Use the heap settings in nvse rather than in nvsr. If you are using ANY Fallout 3 mods that haven't been converted to TTW, remove them. If you're starting in DC, remove TTW_StartupMenu.esp (it's only for if you want to start in vegas).



Freff
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I have the latest versions of

Post by Freff » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:28 pm

I have the latest versions of NVSE, NVAC, NVSR and JIP LN installed. No Fallout 3 mods installed. However after I followed the performance thread I also have the loading screen crash/freeze on TTW without any additional mods active. Also if I try to load a save right outside vault 101 which previously worked fine as far as I know, now plays the new vegas intro before crashing or freezing. 



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RoyBatty
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Fixed your load order.

Post by RoyBatty » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:50 pm

Fixed your load order.


I'm gonna go on a limb and say Niner is not compatible with TTW due to editing the chargen quest.


Be sure to uninstall mods completely and not just disable them, start a new game.


The ini edits may have been reverted from running the default launcher, check the manual installation instructions ini section and make sure they are correct.


 


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Freff
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I trimmed down my load order

Post by Freff » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:01 am

I trimmed down my load order a little and checked my ini files. Editing my ini files through MO helped quite a bit, I managed to get through 8-9 loading screens without any problems, however the last one ended up with a black screen with audio in the background.


Could this be a issue from my load order?


Also the hardcore mode did not seem to work correctly, the food/thirst/sleep needs stayed at 0 the whole time, but ammunition and food had weight and the food/drinks displayed the correct values.


[collapsed title=Load Order] # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.


FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Fallout3.esm Anchorage.esm ThePitt.esm BrokenSteel.esm PointLookout.esm Zeta.esm TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm TTWFixes.esm Sortomatic.esm SomeguySeries.esm Afterschool Special.esm NVWillow.esp Project Nevada - Core.esm Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm Project Nevada - Equipment.esm Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp TTW_NoKarmaDCFollowers.esp TTW_SpeechChecks.esp TTWOptions.esp Russell.esp NewVegasBounties.esp NewVegasBountiesII.esp TheInheritance.esp KingOfTheRing.esp CheckpointGary.esp The Mod Configuration Menu.esp CASM with MCM.esp JIP Companions Command & Control.esp OdiossModWornBackpack.esp Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp Project Nevada - All DLC.esp TTWVaultSuitHotfix.esp Project Nevada - TTW.esp  


 [/collapsed] 



Lyndi
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If you're using the latest

Post by Lyndi » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:25 am

If you're using the latest JIP LN nvse type in DisableHardcoreTracking in the console and see if your needs start to progress as they should.


 



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Risewild
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Also as a general tip,

Post by Risewild » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:03 am

Also as a general tip, disable Auto Saves.


For many people, Auto Saves make the game crash on loading screens.



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RoyBatty
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Turning on Hardcore when

Post by RoyBatty » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:37 am

Turning on Hardcore when leaving vault 101 doesn't work (fixed in 3.0), you'll have to do it manually in the game settings.


Also what Rise said.


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Freff
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Well I got the hardcore mode

Post by Freff » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:25 pm

Well I got the hardcore mode working properly, however the game is still very unstable with crashes, freezes and infinite loading screens every 10-15 minutes.


I turned off auto saves and removed CASM and verified the ini changes in the manual installation guides.


Could someone tell me how I check the BSA order as this thread says?


https://taleoftwowastelands.com/content/mod-organizer-users-please-read



Lyndi
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Click on the archives tab of

Post by Lyndi » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:30 pm

Click on the archives tab of MO and it will show you the order the BSA's are being loaded. The easiest way to correct the order is to go into the Mod Organizer/Mods directory and create new folders for each BSA and then move each BSA into it's own folder. They will show up in the mods window (the left pane) and you can change their priority from there. Once the order is correct and all of the individual "mods" are enabled the BSA's will load in the correct order.


There are other ways to do it but that just seemed the easiest when I set mine up.



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