TTW Crashes upon leaving Vault 101

General help and troubleshooting.
Post Reply
Ragnar33
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:00 pm

TTW Crashes upon leaving Vault 101

Post by Ragnar33 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:09 pm

Another one of those posts, sry. When I try to go down the hill from Vault 101 the game either CTDs or goes into some spastic screen flickering (sometimes an epilepsy inducing version of that happens during the loading screen as well).

I installed all the necessary NVSE plugins including NVAC (tried to remove that one, did not help) JohnnyGuitar and NVTF.

I run it on an ooooooooold Acer laptop with AMD R5 integrated graphics (tuned down the settings accordingly).

I also use FOMM since the laptop has a 32bit system and therefore can't run MO2.

Apart from the age of the hardware could something else have caused this?

Here's my load order
SpoilerShow
FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
CaravanPack.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm
YUPTTW.esm
Functional Post Game Ending.esm
AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm
AWorldOfPainFO3.esm
Regulators.esm
AWOPMonsterPatchVanilla.esm
A Trail of Crumbs.esm
Cyberware.esm
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
Skill Book Checklist.esp
Cyberware TTW.esp
DarNifiedUINV.esp
Tutorial Killer.esp
TTW - AWOPNV.esp
TTW-AWOPNV-AWOPFO3.esp
Cyberware OWB.esp
Enhanced Vision.esp
Immersive Minigames.esp
MCLLPPLL100.esp
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
Uncut Wasteland.esp
JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp
FalloutNV_lang.esp
Functional Post Game Ending - AWOP Patch.esp

Ragnar33
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:00 pm

Re: TTW Crashes upon leaving Vault 101

Post by Ragnar33 » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:31 am

I don't really know what I did wrong with the first installation but now the game seems to work (I'm standing in the middle of Springvale) :D . I installed the Quick Start Mod, maybe this helped solving the CTDs.

User avatar
Laclongquan
Posts: 355
Joined: Mon May 03, 2021 4:19 am

Re: TTW Crashes upon leaving Vault 101

Post by Laclongquan » Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:25 pm

No no, it's FNV engine being quirky.

My guess is that for first time entering a big area that require much loading, the game need to read all necessary files and save temps out. The bigger the area, the slower it become. if your rig is good the process go smoother.

Obviously, old laptop with integrated graphic chipset will have much harder time with that.

Capital Wasteland is especially rough due to the way their terrain are designed. Mojave is much better. Then again, I keep feeling Mojave is flatter and less clutter than Capital.

ALSO, the 1st time out of Vault 101 is super rough because that's when all the DLC, stashes, radio, quests, appear.

User avatar
RoyBatty
Gary
Posts: 7277
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:26 am
Location: Vault 108

Re: TTW Crashes upon leaving Vault 101

Post by RoyBatty » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:55 pm

TTW cannot run on a 32 bit system probably unless you enable 3GB support. You can google how to do that with your OS.
Image

User avatar
jlf65
Posts: 1502
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:10 pm

Re: TTW Crashes upon leaving Vault 101

Post by jlf65 » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:22 pm

He's got AMD integrated graphics. You can't enable LAA in 32-bit with built-in AMD graphics as AMD doesn't allow it. I ran into that myself on my old laptop. You gotta squeeze every last bit out of 2GB... which means cut all non-essential mods, eliminate all graphic retextures, cut the number of systems services you have running...

User avatar
RoyBatty
Gary
Posts: 7277
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:26 am
Location: Vault 108

Re: TTW Crashes upon leaving Vault 101

Post by RoyBatty » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:31 pm

TTW won't even load with 2GB.
Image

User avatar
jlf65
Posts: 1502
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:10 pm

Re: TTW Crashes upon leaving Vault 101

Post by jlf65 » Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:50 am

The old 2.9.4 version would, but I haven't tried it with the new 3.x version. So I'll defer to your expertise. :D

One thing you can do to help with short memory is to use ENB strictly for the memory handling of textures. Make sure all graphic effects and rendering are disabled, but the video driver memory handling is enabled. It will then use another process in Windows as the memory buffer for textures instead of vram (which the AMD built-in video doesn't have) or system memory of the process using the textures (the game). This does slow down the game when textures need to be swapped in for rendering by the game, but that's better than not being able to play the game at all.

In short, get a better system - in particular, get a 64-bit system and a video card with lots of vram. Nothing else will work nearly as well.

JMTF
Posts: 9
Joined: Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:42 pm

Re: TTW Crashes upon leaving Vault 101

Post by JMTF » Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:42 pm

RoyBatty wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:31 pm
TTW won't even load with 2GB.
Last time i played ttw 3.2 it was with a crappy 2gb laptop, if i look to the ground the fps goes up, goldeneye strats.
My windows is 64 bit if that makes a difference. i can't save scripts at the GECK tought.

Post Reply