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Fo3 Ending Slide Crash

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:52 am
by TheCorpser
So I followed the wasteland survival guide's instructions, got the game running just fine (few crashes here and there), but now I'm dealing with a crash I can't get around. After activating the purifier it'll do the slides but once it finishes with the last one, the one showing the framed picture of Dad and the lone wanderer as a child, it'll show a loading background then immediately crash to desktop. Is there any idea as to what could be causing it?

Side note: one other weird issue I had was after finishing Operation Anchorage I had to use the console to allow fast traveling again because it completely bugged out and wouldn't allow me to fast travel at all. No clue why. Also trying to get to the main menu while in-game causes a guaranteed crash as well.

Re: Fo3 Ending Slide Crash

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:43 am
by TheCorpser
Here's my load order: https://pastebin.com/XB89MFWa

Re: Fo3 Ending Slide Crash

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:17 am
by XanthosGambit
Well, you've got .esm files mixed in with .esp files. .esm files should always, always, be the very first thing in your load order. Second, any weather mod should be the last thing in your load order.

Here's a load order that's more organized, though it might still conflict. https://pastebin.com/MpZBBL1m

Re: Fo3 Ending Slide Crash

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:28 am
by TheCorpser
Which is weird cause I could have sworn I copied the suggested load order as much as I could. When I have the time I'll try resorting them and seeing if that fixes the crashing. I'll respond back after trying that out.

Re: Fo3 Ending Slide Crash

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:29 am
by TheCorpser
Okay I fixed the load order from what you shared but that didn't fix the crashing after the cutscene slides. Probably more stable with that new load order if I can get past this issue though.

One thing I did notice though during the ending slide, which I don't know how I missed before, is that I'm getting the slide of me being turned into ashes/goo after activating the purifier instead of the slide with the fallen down view. Does that mean the Broken Steel data is messed up from the initial setting up of the TTW mod? Or something else entirely?

EDIT: Okay so I dived a bit more into researching the whole issue and a few things got answered. I was getting the original FO3 ending of activating the purifier because of being on hardcore. Which meant I was getting the original dying ending. Which would explain the death ash/goo slide instead of the fallen over slide. And why I was entirely confused as to what was actually going on. Being unaware of that being implemented into the mod mixed with my unknown reason of crashing to desktop when going back to the main menu.

The crashing was happening from being sent back to the main menu and not being related to the ending slide or bad Broken Steel data. Like I mentioned in my first post anytime I try to exit from in-game back to the main menu it crashes every single time.

viewtopic.php?t=9489 - That's what helped me pinpoint what was actually going on. If it was listed somewhere that hardcore does give the original death ending I probably skimmed over it because I wasn't planning on doing a hardcore run until I actually started playing.

So can anyone help me figure out why I crash when going from in-game back to the main menu? That's the actual problem. Nothing major and it's more of a nuisance but would be nice to figure out what's causing it.

Re: Fo3 Ending Slide Crash

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:59 pm
by Bullfrog
If you don't want to die in that purifier, send someone else in. Fawkes is a perfect candidate.

As for the issue with the main menu - I have no idea, as I never go back to the main menu from within the game. If I want to stop playing I simply press Alt + F4.

Re: Fo3 Ending Slide Crash

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:41 pm
by Risewild
Our FAQ mentions the FO3 original ending being restored in Hardcore mode in two different places :) :
My character dies after activating Project Purity. Broken Steel DLC doesn't start. WHY?
IMPORTANT HARDCORE MODE GAME CHANGE
Our FAQ is huge, but if you need information about anything else, check it out. It might have the answer you're looking for. :D

About the game crashing when going into the main menu, I never heard of anything similar like that, so I can't help with that one. :cry:

Re: Fo3 Ending Slide Crash

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:21 pm
by TheCorpser
Bullfrog wrote:
Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:59 pm
If you don't want to die in that purifier, send someone else in. Fawkes is a perfect candidate.

As for the issue with the main menu - I have no idea, as I never go back to the main menu from within the game. If I want to stop playing I simply press Alt + F4.
Yeah I could but I believe I would still die to the effects of hunger, thirst, and sleep since it passes two weeks. I'll try it normally with Fawkes and see if it works. If I die I'll just have to resort to using tgm to bypass that specific time passing. Myself I just hit esc then go to quit game. It's when I was testing stuff before starting a real run that I figured out returning to the main menu just instantly crashes the game. Just curious why it happens.
Risewild wrote:
Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:41 pm
Our FAQ mentions the FO3 original ending being restored in Hardcore mode in two different places :) :
My character dies after activating Project Purity. Broken Steel DLC doesn't start. WHY?
IMPORTANT HARDCORE MODE GAME CHANGE
Our FAQ is huge, but if you need information about anything else, check it out. It might have the answer you're looking for. :D

About the game crashing when going into the main menu, I never heard of anything similar like that, so I can't help with that one. :cry:
My bad on that for sure. I definitely didn't read those then since like I said I wasn't planning on doing hardcore until I started playing and I never went back to go through them. I should have that's for sure. In regards to the returning to main menu crashing issue I'll just leave this pinned on my browser and wait to see if anyone can figure it out cause I have no idea myself. Like I said not a big issue just a minor inconvenience that has peaked my curiosity.

Re: Fo3 Ending Slide Crash

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:50 am
by RoyBatty
You won't die from time passing unless JIPLN NVSE is out of date.

As for crashing at the main menu after ending, this was a bug in an older NVTF or Johnny Guitar, it should be fixed now. Make sure xNVSE and all your NVSE plugins are up to date.

Re: Fo3 Ending Slide Crash

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:05 am
by TheCorpser
RoyBatty wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:50 am
You won't die from time passing unless JIPLN NVSE is out of date.

As for crashing at the main menu after ending, this was a bug in an older NVTF or Johnny Guitar, it should be fixed now. Make sure xNVSE and all your NVSE plugins are up to date.
NVSE - 6.2.8
JIPLN NVSE - 56.72
NVTF - 9.9.8BETA2
Johnny Guitar - 8.45

Pretty sure those are all up to date. Checked the other NVSE plugins on Nexus and those seem to be all up to date as well.