Black Screen On Train+ help conflicting mods

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Black Screen On Train+ help conflicting mods

Post by randemiser » Sun May 12, 2019 9:29 am

Load order:
0 0 FalloutNV.esm
1 1 DeadMoney.esm
2 2 HonestHearts.esm
3 3 OldWorldBlues.esm
4 4 LonesomeRoad.esm
5 5 GunRunnersArsenal.esm
6 6 Fallout3.esm
7 7 Anchorage.esm
8 8 ThePitt.esm
9 9 BrokenSteel.esm
10 a PointLookout.esm
11 b Zeta.esm
12 c CaravanPack.esm
13 d ClassicPack.esm
14 e MercenaryPack.esm
15 f TribalPack.esm
16 10 TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm
17 11 TTWFixes.esm
18 12 YUPTTW.esm
19 13 Run the Lucky 38.esm
20 14 ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm
21 15 FCOMaster.esm
22 16 AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm
23 17 HonestHearts2.esp
24 18 ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm
25 19 TTWInteriors_Core.esm
26 1a TTWInteriorsProject_Combo.esm
27 1b TTWInt_MadBomber.esm
28 1c AWOPDeadMoney.esm
29 1d TTWInt_FollowerGoHome.esm
30 1e CCO - Follower Tweaks.esm
31 1f Afterschool Special.esm
32 20 NevadaSkies.esm
33 21 Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm
34 22 SomeguySeries.esm
35 23 RH_IRONSIGHTS_NV.esm
36 24 CCO - Classic Perks.esm
37 25 Project Nevada - Core.esm
38 26 SpeedyResources.esm
39 27 CCO - Gameplay Changes.esm
40 28 Rhonda the Merchant.esm
41 29 DarNifiedUINV.esp
FalloutNV_lang.esp
42 2a PMPitems.esp
43 2b Limitless Stats.esp
44 2c Nevada Skies - Winter Edition.esp
45 2d NevadaSkies - Blueberry Nights.esp
46 2e NevadaSkies - Western Edition.esp
47 2f After War Nevada.esp
48 30 HonestHearts2b.esp
49 31 Open Waters.esp
50 32 After War Nevada - DLCs.esp
51 33 The Lucky 38 Empire.esp
52 34 FCO - NPC Changes.esp
53 35 Vault 76.esp
TTW Unofficial Patch.esp
54 36 SenterPats Weapon Pack.esp
55 37 pnv.esp
56 38 EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp
57 39 BLEED.esp
58 3a ApocalypticMojave.esp
59 3b NevadaSkies - URLIFIED Interiors.esp
60 3c FafnirUniqueTTWOverhaul.esp
61 3d After War Nevada - mini DLCs.esp
62 3e After War Nevada - TTW.esp
63 3f TTW - AWOPNV.esp
64 40 pnvhh.esp
65 41 RH_IronSights_NV_Vanilla.esp
66 42 Asurah_reanimation.esp
67 43 NewVegasBounties.esp
68 44 NewVegasBountiesII.esp
69 45 TheInheritance.esp
70 46 1nivVSLArmors.esp
71 47 Russell.esp
72 48 KingOfTheRing.esp
73 49 NewVegasKiller.esp
74 4a Badmothafucka.esp
75 4b NewVegasBountiesIII.esp
76 4c AWOPDeadMoneyVendorPatch.esp
77 4d 1nivPNSLPatch.esp
78 4e CombatEnhancer.esp
79 4f pnvnvbount1.esp
80 50 WEATHER RUDY ENB.esp
81 51 Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp
82 52 Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp
83 53 TTWIntMojaveExpressBoxes_Combo.esp
84 54 TheBetterAngels.esp
85 55 DriveableMotorCycle.esp
86 56 Alcatraz Island.esp
87 57 JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp
88 58 NVBIIAmbientNoise.esp
89 59 NVBIIIAmbientNoise.esp
90 5a RussellAmbientNoise.esp
91 5b TheBetterAngelsAmbientNoise.esp
92 5c CAGE 1.9.3.2.esp
93 5d Tailor Maid - NV.esp
94 5e NewVegasBounties - ImmersiveStart.esp
95 5f Tailor Maid Black Retex - NV.esp
96 60 CheckpointGary.esp
97 61 CheckpointGaryAmbientNoise.esp
98 62 TheSiegeofFirebaseZulu.esp
99 63 Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Cheat.Cabinet.esp
100 64 BLIND.esp
101 65 BartertownDangerous.esp
102 66 LootMenu.esp
103 67 pipboy2500_edisleado.esp
104 68 TTW_PNxC.esp
TTW_PNxEO.esp
105 69 FixHitESP.esp
106 6a CCO - Damage Resistance.esp
107 6b CCO - Perk Rebalance.esp
108 6c After War Nevada - Vanilla Minigames.esp
109 6d TTW-TrainStationAccessViaInventory.esp
110 6e After War Nevada - Forgiving Combat.esp
111 6f merchantammo.esp
112 70 merchantammoGRA.esp
113 71 Improved VATS and Autoaim fix with Better Binoculars.esp
New Vegas Redesigned 3 Path Fixing.esp
114 72 ttw_fco_race_npc_companions.esp
115 73 FCO - Playable Races + Roberts Patch.esp
116 74 FCO - PathFixing Vanilla.esp
117 75 FCO - Roberts Patch.esp
118 76 FCO - PathFixing BugFixes.esp
119 77 FCO - GlowingOne.esp
120 78 FCO - Afterschool Special.esp
121 79 FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp
122 7a FCO - Russell.esp
123 7b PracticeMakesPerfect.esp
124 7c Level100PerkPerLevel.esp
125 7d Max Level 255.esp
126 7e TTW Quick Start.esp
127 7f Intelligence_And_Skill_Points_Increased.esp
128 80 TTW Realistic Wasteland Lighting.esp
129 81 TTW RWL - Black and White TranquilityLane.esp
130 82 TTW RWL - Brighter Nights.esp
131 83 TTW RWL - No Overcast Weather.esp
132 84 NevadaSkies - TTW Edition.esp

So I know that most of these mods are said to be incompatible but I felt that it wouldn't be a problem and until this point it wasn't, so i decided to keep them. But as soon as I reached the train and tried to take it to new vegas, I think there was a script conflict as i was transported to either a blank cell or a black screen. At this point, i've accepted i won't be able to keep these mods without conflicting the game but i just need some help identifying the mods that are causing trouble.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Black Screen On Train+ help conflicting mods

Post by RoyBatty » Sun May 12, 2019 4:04 pm

Well you are wrong about "being ok up until now" your game at this point is totally broken and corrupted. You're on your own I am afraid.
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Re: Black Screen On Train+ help conflicting mods

Post by randemiser » Mon May 13, 2019 9:01 am

i know, thats the problem. In order to start a new game, i have to know exactly what mods are problematic so i can delete them. I've already accepted at this point that I have to restart so I don't really care that much. If you know the problematic mods, that would be much obliged.

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Re: Black Screen On Train+ help conflicting mods

Post by jlf65 » Mon May 13, 2019 3:28 pm

First off, you have too many plugins. While I've managed to get 130-something to work before, it's not really stable. Also, even when plugins are turned off, they're still counted in that 130 (unless you're using MO/MO2). I don't remember FCO being working on TTW3 - are you using 2.9x? We also need more info like the system, OS, other plugins like NVAC, NVSE, etc.

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Re: Black Screen On Train+ help conflicting mods

Post by RoyBatty » Mon May 13, 2019 5:44 pm

Incompatible mods and guidelines are already linked in the FAQ.
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Re: Black Screen On Train+ help conflicting mods

Post by randemiser » Tue May 14, 2019 7:23 pm

jlf65 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 3:28 pm
First off, you have too many plugins. While I've managed to get 130-something to work before, it's not really stable. Also, even when plugins are turned off, they're still counted in that 130 (unless you're using MO/MO2). I don't remember FCO being working on TTW3 - are you using 2.9x? We also need more info like the system, OS, other plugins like NVAC, NVSE, etc.
For the plugins, i feel like after deleting all the problematic mods, i'll be under the limit so that's fine and as for the FCO, i am using the 2.9x version as FCO3 doesnt work as well. For the additional plugins, it was only rudy enb, overgrowth enb and everything from the installation reccomendation guide. as for the system info:

Operating System: Windows 10 Education 64-bit (10.0, Build 17134) (17134.rs4_release.180410-1804)
System Manufacturer: HP
System Model: HP ProBook 430 G5
BIOS: Q85 Ver. 01.01.07 (type: UEFI)
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz (8 CPUs), ~1.8GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 7608MB RAM

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Re: Black Screen On Train+ help conflicting mods

Post by jlf65 » Wed May 15, 2019 1:48 am

As a general rule of thumb, start with the bare minimum and add to it, testing as you go. Once you've found the limits, that's when you install everything you want, not at the beginning. You know the limits of New Vegas, but this is a whole 'nother kettle of fish. You need to relearn what the game can do.

Something tells me that the 2.9x FCO may cause issues in 3.x. Also, you'll want to cut all the new quests until they can be checked under TTW (and patched if needed). Pay close attention to what the FAQ says about compatible and incompatible mods. Work within those and be sure you have a stable game, then slowly add to it.

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Re: Black Screen On Train+ help conflicting mods

Post by randemiser » Wed May 15, 2019 8:14 am

I see, so i should treat this game as if completely different from new vegas. Thank you for your help, it is extremely helpful

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Re: Black Screen On Train+ help conflicting mods

Post by RoyBatty » Wed May 15, 2019 5:03 pm

Yes, it is a total conversion.
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