Windows 7 / 10 : Which is preferred?

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Windows 7 / 10 : Which is preferred?

Post by Sarcasm » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:40 am

I haven't played TTW in a few years, and my old install is on Windows 7. After watching GamePoets' install video, there were a few install and running problems listed for Windows 10 only. I don't remember exactly why my old install is on Win 7 since I've been using 10 for many years, but I vaguely remember lotds of crashes that didn't happen on 7.

Do the TTW mod authors have a recommendation on Windows 7 versus Windows 10 ? How is TTW handled differently between the two?

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Re: Windows 7 / 10 : Which is preferred?

Post by Sarcasm » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:40 pm

I'm surprised to see no answers, it seems an important question. Windows 7 and 10 handle admin permissions and file access differently which can impact how TTW works, or if it even works at all. Maybe a better question to ask is, is anyone running TTW on Windows 7 and if so, why not 10?

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Re: Windows 7 / 10 : Which is preferred?

Post by jlf65 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:08 am

I run W10 on my laptop (because I HAVE to), and W7 on my desktop (because I can). I prefer W7, but W10 is okay as long as you don't use NVSR. NVSR kept breaking FONV/TTW on my laptop, which was damned irritating. Now there's Tick Fixer, so it's not as big an issue anymore.

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Re: Windows 7 / 10 : Which is preferred?

Post by Lyndi » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:14 am

Most people I know dual boot. I personally use 10 for work and games like Hitman, Total War Warhammer, and my Vive. I use 7 for anything older just because there are usually fewer hoops to jump through getting older games to run well on 7.

TTW runs on either so it really doesn't matter from that standpoint. As Jlf65 mentioned, NVTF does a fine job replacing NVSR on 10, so it doesn't really matter which you want to use for TTW.

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Re: Windows 7 / 10 : Which is preferred?

Post by FiftyTifty » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:55 pm

Windows 10 does have ever so slightly better draw call performance, so you may gain a couple frames in intense scenes over Windows 7. Also, Windows 7 does not support hardware accelerated sound, so if you have a Creative sound card, ALchemy should increase performance as it will wrap DirectSound (runs on CPU) to OpenAL (hardware accelerated).

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Re: Windows 7 / 10 : Which is preferred?

Post by Decker » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:18 pm

I've been using Win 7 for TTW and everything else for years with almost no problems (but I do have additional more up-to-date security software for firewall etc), I mostly play several years old games, some of my hardware is fairly old as well and I don't really see any valid reasons for an upgrade into Windows 10 so far.. If (big if) in the future I absolutely must have Win10 for something important, I'd likely go for a multiple OS boot selections kind of setup.

Mainly for me, it is a matter of trust. I do not trust the current era microsoft, not even a little bit.

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Re: Windows 7 / 10 : Which is preferred?

Post by RoyBatty » Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:56 pm

Windows 7 for me because GECK and other things are plain broken in 10.
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Re: Windows 7 / 10 : Which is preferred?

Post by Sarcasm » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:10 am

Ok thank you, it looks like I will stay with Windows 7 for TTW. I remember reading that New Vegas Stutter Remover actually caused stuttering, is this true? I seem to remember having to edit a line somewhere in its ini to fix it. bHookLightCriticalSections I think it was but it's been a while and may involve more / something else.

edit: I'm reading on this forum that the sutter remover is straight up broken and I should use tickfix instead. Is this 100% confirmed and true for both Win 7 and 10?

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Re: Windows 7 / 10 : Which is preferred?

Post by jlf65 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:16 pm

NVSR works fine in W7, but tick fixer works fine in W7 as well and isn't as heavy or intrusive. NVSR doesn't work at all in W10 on my laptop, no matter what settings I use. Maybe ten minutes and it hangs solid. So you CAN use NVSR in W7 if you want, but tick fixer is almost mandatory in W10.

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Re: Windows 7 / 10 : Which is preferred?

Post by Sarcasm » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:56 am

Okay thank you. Do TTW devs have a stance on NVSR vs tickfix ? The GamerPoets videos for setting up TTW mention using NVSR but no mention of tickfix, and one of these videos is linked on the download page as the de facto official install instructions for TTW. However I've seen some green name posts on this forum saying NVSR is broken and should never be used.

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