Another way to get companions regardless of karma?

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Another way to get companions regardless of karma?

Post by Panzermann11 » Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:08 am

So I read the changelog and I noticed the charisma bobblehead's effect will be changed from acquiring any companion regardless of karma to increasing damage dealt and resistance for companions. I was disappointed, really, since plenty of companions in the Capital are given a variety of perks useful on various occasions. Jericho has a portable campfire, Cross increases weight upon wearing power armor, etc. I also wasn't a fan of the way Fawkes, Charon and Cross speaks, especially because these are the only humanoid companions you can get with good karma.

I really hope there'll another way to have the old charisma bobblehead's effect. Maybe in the form of a perk, since that'd be really great.
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Re: Another way to get companions regardless of karma?

Post by Risewild » Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:15 am

The Speech Bobblehead will do that instead.
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Re: Another way to get companions regardless of karma?

Post by Panzermann11 » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:32 am

Risewild wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:15 am
The Speech Bobblehead will do that instead.
Does it replace the effect to make speech challenges easier, or adds the new effect alongside it?

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Re: Another way to get companions regardless of karma?

Post by RoyBatty » Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:33 pm

It never made speech challenges easier, all it did was vanilla +10 to speech. It was one of the last Bobbleheads we didn't make a 1/2 perk for, so now it does.

Even if you start with 0 in all your skills in TTW, you can still max them out with all the books and skill points you can get easily. It didn't make sense to have the Bobbleheads still act in that fashion, or increasing specials.
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Re: Another way to get companions regardless of karma?

Post by Panzermann11 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:16 pm

RoyBatty wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:33 pm
It never made speech challenges easier, all it did was vanilla +10 to speech. It was one of the last Bobbleheads we didn't make a 1/2 perk for, so now it does.
I meant that does the new effect adds alongside with TTW's old effect of making speech challenges 5% easier, or does it replace the old effect?

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Re: Another way to get companions regardless of karma?

Post by RoyBatty » Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:44 pm

No, it doesn't do that at all any longer.
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Re: Another way to get companions regardless of karma?

Post by Panzermann11 » Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:38 am

RoyBatty wrote:
Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:44 pm
No, it doesn't do that at all any longer.
I checked, I saw what it actually does, not just a skill boost. You're not being specific here, I ask the latter or the former?
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Re: Another way to get companions regardless of karma?

Post by Risewild » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:14 am

It won't have 2 effects.
It will only allow to get companions regardless of karma.
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Re: Another way to get companions regardless of karma?

Post by Panzermann11 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:56 am

Risewild wrote:
Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:14 am
It won't have 2 effects.
It will only allow to get companions regardless of karma.
Thanks for saying that. I feel like the "no karma requirements for companions" belong more as a perk than a bobblehead.
I liked the speech difficulty decrease the old speech bobblehead has, I know how plenty of players felt about Fallout 3's speech system.

And bobbleheads, as far as I know are meant to be optional collectibles providing small gameplay boosts as opposed to minor skill boosts in the original Fallout 3. The speech/charisma bobblehead felt almost mandatory to get due to various beneficial perks on Capital companions.

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