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This is exciting! :D i hope

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:41 am
by Sethoria123

This is exciting! :D i hope the team finds a good C# programmer! any day now 3.0 ready for dl ^^

Looking at the code it may be

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:22 pm
by GrantSP

Looking at the code it may be possible to push a release based on the previous version pretty quickly but one that uses the new design document layout may be another matter.

If the old style installer works, all that needs to be done is provide it with the new edits made by the rest of the team over the course of the last few years.

Nb. This shouldn't be viewed as gospel as I am NOT an experienced coder, just a hacker. (The plodding kind, not the malicious kind.)

TTW has become too

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:24 pm
by RoyBatty

TTW has become too complicated for the old installer. There are multiple bsa's for TTW and legal reasons for patching everything instead of including any assets.

Been thinking about tackling

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:50 am
by FiftyTifty

Been thinking about tackling this. But I've never worked with diff patching files before, and my focus isn't great so my code would need many rounds of bugtesting.

I've looked at the source a couple times, and it seems pretty clunky to me. I'd start over from scratch, but I'm fairly picky. I've thought about how to tackle the biggest problem, having the program's patching behaviour changeable by non-programmers, and I think I've figured out how to approach that. There are downsides to it, however.

Spoiler'd because it's lengthy:

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For each .bsa that needs to be unpacked, a specific directory will be searched for subfolders. Each subfolder can have any name, but for the example, I will use the name of the .bsa files. Inside the subfolder, there would be three text files. One being the full path to the resource to patch, the second being the relative path to the patch file, and the third being the destination path for the patch. The indexes would be 1:1. For example:

C:\TTW Installer\Patching\FalloutNV - Meshes\A_FilesToPatch.txt

C:\TTW Installer\Patching\FalloutNV - Meshes\B_PatchesForFiles.txt

C:\TTW Installer\Patching\FalloutNV - Meshes\C_PatchDestinations.txt

Let's say there are three files we want to patch, the second one we want to patch three times. The text files would have the following content:








C:\TTW Installer\Patches\00000001FetusBarrel.patch

C:\TTW Installer\Patches\00003832citadelrubblepile01_01.patch

C:\TTW Installer\Patches\02030000citadelrubblepile01_02.patch

C:\TTW Installer\Patches\00043920citadelrubblepile01_03.patch

C:\TTW Installer\Patches\90050600childbarmarker.patch


C:\TTW Installer\Patched\meshes\TTW\architecture\sunsets\TTW0001FetusBarrelNew.nif

C:\TTW Installer\Patched\meshes\TTW\architecture\pentagon\TTWcitadelrubblepile01_Purple.nif

C:\TTW Installer\Patched\meshes\architecture\pentagon\citadelrubblepile01.nif

C:\TTW Installer\Patched\meshes\TTW\architecture\New\TTWRubblePile05.nif

C:\TTW Installer\Patched\meshes\markers\childbarmarker.nif

Alternatively, rather than using 3 text files, we could just have one spreadsheet file instead. In which case, replace the three text files with three columns.

The above would be pretty easy to implement. Wouldn't take much more than a few for loops. The downside is that they'd have to be made manually, which I assume is not a small undertaking due to the sheer number of patched files.



We have a system designed for

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:12 pm
by RoyBatty

We have a system designed for that already.

sourcebsa, sourcefile, destfile

problem is building the patch set, directory compare with automated generation is what is desired to avoid endless manual editing and to avoid errors.

A programmer has stepped up to work on the installer, his name is Matt and I thank whiskeyriver for directing him to us. Hopefully this problem is resolved.

If he's working on the

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:50 pm
by GrantSP

If he's working on the another repo I'd like to see what he's doing, just to follow along. I learn most of my coding from seeing what others have done. No big deal if he wants to do it quietly but if it's public that would be good to know.

It should be public. Not

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:33 am
by RoyBatty

It should be public. Not putting all our eggs in one basket yet, have to see how things go.

Thought I might as well come

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:20 am

Thought I might as well come out of hiding and say hi, I'm MATT, and I'm the new guy working on the installer, if you got any questions, ill try and check the forums whenever I can, so feel free to message me!

Hi MATT. Is the repo you're

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:10 am
by GrantSP

Hi MATT. Is the repo you're working on the same one as in the opening post?

If not, where is it and is it open for all to peruse/join?

the current repo is here:

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:39 am

the current repo is here:

you can view it but helping out is currently restricted to team members that are added to the github, if you have suggestions though, send me a message, I'm more likely to see it though if you send it to me on discord which you can add with my name being this: MATT#2521