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Would like suggestions on new Rig

Hi all,

I have been out of the game of building PC's for awhile a feel that I am way behind the curve. I would like to have some suggestions of A) parts to build or B) a "pre-built" rig that would run Fallout 4 comfortably with modding. 

I don't mean the "recommended" set due to being around a $2500 pre-built, so on a budget of $1000 or less. 

Thanks all, I do appreciate your time. 

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I know another thread

I know another thread addresses this sort of thing but I will be tracking this thread to see what answers you get since I am also way behind the curve and do not want to spend a fortune just to play FO4 (which does not excite me that much anyway).

My computer specs are too embarrassing to reveal, but the game still runs.

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https://taleoftwowastelands

https://taleoftwowastelands.com/content/fallout-4-system-requirements-an...

This one? Yea, the only thing it's more of requirements and what people have as opposed to a good "mid range" build out. 

Or did I miss something?

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No I do not think you missed

No I do not think you missed anything, which is why I am glad you started this. Hopefully, you will get replies other than fan mail from me.

My computer specs are too embarrassing to reveal, but the game still runs.

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You can build the

You can build the "recommended" system specs for Fallout 4 on about a $1000 budget, assuming you already have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, and operating system.

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Thank you Therm. 

Thank you Therm. 

Unfortunately the link does not work. 

I have this case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115

and this power supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153053

Those should both be able to be used with the new parts correct? Just like a second opinion to make sure I don't miss anything. 

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Yes. Honestly I'd say find

Yes, those parts will work fine. Honestly I'd say find the thread where I recommend parts to Risewild, build something similar to that, with one exception: go nuts on a good dedicated GPU.

I've not experienced any slowdowns on my R9 290x, but a friend has a 390 and gets slowdowns in the wasteland.


EDIT: it was in the team forum, so I'm quoting myself:

TJ wrote:

 

Hold the phone. You're going about this all wrong. Watch this space for a *budget* gaming setup that will hold it's own for a year or two at least.


I'll be pulling everything here from http://www.newegg.com/global/au, if you can find it cheaper elsewhere do so. I don't know much about AU pricing but I'll be going from what I do know about PC parts and American pricing.

CPU: AMD A10-7850 - AUD$178.00

For an APU, this thing is a beast. It's a highly refined version of the chips produced for the PS4 / Xbone. Codenamed Kaveri, it comes with 4 CPU cores and 8 GPU cores. This thing can hold it's own with the FX-8350  (Proof, look at single core performance) and comes with a built in Radeon R7. You can game now and get a discreet GPU later, which will work in tandem with the Kaveri if it's an AMD card.

Mobo: ASUS A68HM-K FM2+ - AUD$76.00

This thing is cheap, but not bottom of the barrel quality. Will support the absolute newest video cards on the market if you decide to get a discreet card at a later date.

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X 2133 (2x4gb for 8gb) (2x8gb for 16gb) - AUD $74.00 and $123.00

Good RAM. I use it. All you really need for gaming is 8 GB but I've added a kit for 16gb as well as that seems to be what you'd like to have.

PSU: CORSAIR RM Series RM650 - AUD$146.00

650 Watts is the sweet spot. If you're only running one GPU (You'd be running exactly 0 GPUs with this build, for example) and it's not power hungry, this is all you'll need. My Asus R9 290x *is* a power hungry little whore, And I have an older version of this and it's plenty. Side note: it's full modular. You can remove the cables you don't need.

Case: XON-310_BK - AUD$32.00

Cheap, not bad looking. Gets the Job done.

HDD: WD10EZEX 1TB - AUD$71.00

Gets the Job done. Cheap non-SSD, non-5400RPM HDD with plenty of space for your games. Optionally add an SSD to put your Operating System on.

 

Beyond all this, you'll need keyboard and mouse as well as a monitor or TV with HDMI input.

GRAND TOTAL: 

AUD$577 for an 8GB machine

AUD$626 for a 16GB machine

 

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"... That's why we're going out of our way to make our game less Fallout."

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Here's an updated spec sheet

Here's an updated spec sheet that I sent ParagonsKeep in chat, just in case anyone else is reading.  This would use his case and powersupply as above.  Had to change to a shorter CPU cooler to fit in the case.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dWNqt6

Also the R290x is pretty expensive as it's harder to find.  I'd recommend a 390x, 390, or 380 depending on your budget.

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Please do not attempt to air

Please do not attempt to air cool an FX-9590. It wont last very long. Not that getting one is a bad idea, but anything higher than an 8350 or so really needs liquid cooling. They run super hot while somehow still having a low tolerance for heat.


EDIT: maybe it's not so bad, Jax said his 8350 doesn't have heat issues on air. I've just always heard that was a problem with the higher powered ones.

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TJ wrote:

TJ wrote:

 

Please do not attempt to air cool an FX-9590. It wont last very long. Not that getting one is a bad idea, but anything higher than an 8350 or so really needs liquid cooling. They run super hot while somehow still having a low tolerance for heat.


EDIT: maybe it's not so bad, Jax said his 8350 doesn't have heat issues on air. I've just always heard that was a problem with the higher powered ones.

Would you recommend something like this then?

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060020

or would this work as well? 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15

I guess either would require a different case though

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That Noctua is nice and

That Noctua is nice and shouldn't require a different case. I'd go with that instead of getting a new case.

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If you can squeeze in a

If you can squeeze in a Nvidia 970 I would highly recommend it.  It is perhaps the best GPU out there when it comes to power consumption and performance for a 1080p playing player.  I bought a  970 Mini which is "Small/compact" but also runs very cool, but more expensive than a normal 970 as they're custom built,not using any stock cooling features. It is better than a 780 for example but uses less "Juice" to operate.   They're not near as expensive as a 980, and performs pretty much as well in the 1080p resolution range for most games.  

Just saying.  I run Fallout 4 with a i7 3.7ghz Quad, and a 970 mini, game runs beautifully, and the machine doesn't even get "HOT" anywhere at all even after playing for half the day.   I really love the 970 mini, it's so small, takes up little space in the case, and doesn't cause air flow issues because of it, it's about the size of a 640 which is shocking.   Also runs GTA V like a dream.  

Of course I play games at 1080p though.  Not higher.  CPU was a bit over kill on my part though.  I learned it wasn't really necessary but at least I don't have to worry about upgraded my CPU for like... ever.   I always go Nvidia and Intel, though mostly because my home has issues sending enough Juice to power a computer sometimes.  I have to plug the monitor for example into another outlet with an intension cord when compared to the Computer itself, otherwise I get white lines on the screen. lol

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Hm. So about 1000 Euro it

Hm. So about 1000 Euro it should be. I will try to build something good up in that price range for you.

I built quite a sum of Setups for me and other people. Mostly because Im working as IT.

Im actually having a system around 1400 Euro, excluding my new keyboard, mouse, screen, headset, etc.

 

Hardware is: Intel i7 6700K @ 4.2 Ghz + BeQuiet! Pure Rock Cooler Tower, Nvidia GTX 970 Gigabyte G1 Gaming, 16GB HyperX 2133mhz, Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 7, BeQuiet! Pure Power L8 730Watt, SSD Samsung Evo 850 500GB, Sharkoon VG-5W Case.

The last one is not needed, however, This case costs 30-40 Euro and has a great modern look and 3 fans built in already. Nope, they are not loud and cheap as you might think in that price range. Its a Midi Tower. Its totally fine for your needs.

While the setup definitely costs to much for you I can guarantee that this can run Fallout 4 on Maximum Settings without and lags and 60FPS 1080p. However, lower systems might be able to do the same.

 

Here is a setup I made for you, it costs 950-1000 Euro. It is with Intel/Nvidia Hardware. Yeah, you can use AMD aswell, however, Im not recommending it anymore because the FX 8350 is dated as of now and many Intel processors in the same price region can give you better. At least when it comes to pure gaming power and FPS. You can however go with those too. FX 8350 + R9 390 I would recommend then for the same price. The setup is not with the new 5000/6000 generation Intel processors because those would be to costly in combination with board and DDR4 Ram for you. Even though I can recommend it, you are save for the future. But it will cost you probably 100-200 Euro more to go with those and then you are in the 1200 Euro price range. Alternatively you can also maybe just get a GTX 960 and save the other money for the named newer hardware. Well, maybe just leave your thoughts on this. I can maybe help you further or setup a AMD setup if you want.

Here is the shopping cart link. Sorry, German website but since its only about seeing the hardware and the price I guess its enough. https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_e...