17 posts / 0 new
Last post
Cannibal_Kon
Cannibal_Kon's picture
Offline
Last seen: 11 months 1 week ago
Joined: 12/09/2013 - 14:53
Karma: 87
How on earth am I supposed to understand Lonesome Road

I haven't played through most of Lonesome Road and one day I WILL beat it but until then: IS there anything in Vanilla FN:V that could explain some of the back story of Ulysses and the Courier? I know about Nash telling you a little but is there anything else in the Vanilla Fallout?

Please try to keep Lonesome Road spoilers out but Fallout spoilers are fine.

Rating: 

0
Your rating: None
0
No votes yet
JaxFirehart
JaxFirehart's picture
Administrator
Offline
Last seen: 6 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 09/11/2012 - 17:33
Karma: 3778
From what I remember, the

From what I remember, the majority of the info about Lonesome Road is given in the Divide, mostly by Ulysses.

Cannibal_Kon
Cannibal_Kon's picture
Offline
Last seen: 11 months 1 week ago
Joined: 12/09/2013 - 14:53
Karma: 87
That may be why I understand

That may be why I understand almost nothing, Thank you Jax.

"A sword wields no strength unless the hand that holds it has courage. Remember those words..."

TJ
TJ's picture
Team Member
Offline
Last seen: 4 months 2 weeks ago
Joined: 09/17/2012 - 06:06
Karma: 2845
Donor
Every DLC gives bits and

Every DLC gives bits and pieces of backstory on Lonesome Road.

My project Dash is on Kickstarter!

JaxFirehart
JaxFirehart's picture
Administrator
Offline
Last seen: 6 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 09/11/2012 - 17:33
Karma: 3778
oh true, you find ulysses

oh true, you find ulysses tapes laying around in most DLCs

Pokepunch
Pokepunch's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 23 hours ago
Joined: 01/01/2013 - 12:42
Karma: 120
You hear about a fight

You hear about a fight between you and Ulysses at the end of Dead Money. A little clue is given in Honest Hearts. You first hear Ulysses in Old World Blues via tapes found about the place. But most information is found in Lonesome Road itself. 

TrickyVein
TrickyVein's picture
Moderator
Offline
Last seen: 5 months 3 weeks ago
Joined: 03/29/2013 - 08:04
Karma: 1305
Cannibal, I still don't

Cannibal, I still don't understand Lonesome Road.

NILLOC 916
NILLOC 916's picture
Trusted Poster
Offline
Last seen: 5 months 4 weeks ago
Joined: 07/31/2013 - 21:21
Karma: 412
Spoilers But Explains pretty
 

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
- Rick James.

Sandloon
Sandloon's picture
Trusted Poster
Offline
Last seen: 1 week 16 hours ago
Joined: 05/11/2013 - 22:49
Karma: 164
^ the last part of that is

^ the last part of that is golden.

"If violence wasn't your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it"

Andr0idOS
Andr0idOS's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 10 months ago
Joined: 05/02/2014 - 14:12
Karma: 99
Donor
Did anyone else besides me

Did anyone else besides me find the frequent conversations with Ulysses interesting? Lonesome Road has always been my favorite DLC by far, just because I find those conversations interesting, especially since there are so many different skill checks and speech options. Makes each playthrough of LR a bit different.

|CPU - Intel Core i5-4670k @ 4.4GHz| |GPU(s) - EVGA GTX 970| |Motherboard - Gigabyte Z87X-D3H| |CPU cooler - CM Hyper 212 Evo| |16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 1866MHz RAM| |PSU - Corsair TX750| |Case - Cooler Master HAF-X| |Storage - 1TB HDD/256GB SSD|

JoeLuck
JoeLuck's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 12/30/2013 - 05:25
Karma: 21
I think the point is that you

I think the point is that you dont understand Lonesome Road. But thats becuase it isnt your journey, its Ulysses's. 

Runnerblank
Runnerblank's picture
Trusted Poster
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 8 months ago
Joined: 06/11/2013 - 08:09
Karma: 218
I agree with both of you,

I agree with both of you,

Always bring a companion or two that is slower than you.
Because you don't need to out run a Deathclaw.
You just need to out run your companions (Just bring a lot of companions in case the Deathclaw is really hungry!).

watercrown
watercrown's picture
Offline
Last seen: 10 months 1 week ago
Joined: 06/23/2017 - 21:35
Karma: 9
Lonesome Road was my least

Lonesome Road was my least favoite DLC for a while. The story between the MC and Ulysses felt a bit forced despite it being there in vanilla NV and expanded upon in the other DLCs. I like the role-playing potential in NV and adding a kind of backstory just kind if irked me.

Later on what they did kind of grew on me. It's not suppose to something that has significance to you. Think about all the mundane things you do in your every day life. If someone was to tell you a bus full of people crashed because of one of those actions would you have a slight clue as to which caused it?

Looking forward to running the DLC again. My current playthrough has like a +250% EXP requirement so I most likely won't get to it any time soon since I remember this DLC being really hard.

Decker
Decker's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 12 min ago
Joined: 12/04/2012 - 10:15
Karma: 126
While not my favorite NV DLC,

While not my favorite NV DLC, I always liked Lonesome Road for it's atmosphere and the cool dialogues with Ulysses.

I think an important point here is that the Main Character (the Courier) is not even supposed to understand right away what is going on with the Divide. (Also, getting shot in the head may indeed cause some long lasting memory loss.)

In the context of TTW, events leading to the Lonesome Road occurred during the '9 Years Later' screen - Lone Wanderer became the Courier and propably travelled a lot in a wide area and carried many messages and parcels to many places. It would be very difficult for the protagonist to remember enough to correctly connect all of the relevant dots before going very deep into the Lonesome Road DLC. A character low in speech and other skills of interest may even be unable to ask the right questions to make much sense of the situation, and the choices for DLC end resolution may be limited.

To make most of this DLC, your character propably should be high level and competent in speech and host of other skills besides just being able to shoot 'em up.

I've always liked to do the NV DLC in the order they were initially published - Dead Money, Honest Hearts, Old World Blues(my personal favorite) and finally the Lonesome Road.

 

jlf65
jlf65's picture
Offline
Last seen: 8 hours 53 min ago
Joined: 08/10/2016 - 14:10
Karma: 941
Lonesome Road was FUN! I had

Lonesome Road was FUN! I had a good-old time blasting bad guys and setting off nukes... Story? There's a story in there somewhere? Bah! We don't need no stickin' story!

You mainly need very high combat skills, a powerful gun, and loads of ammo. Then it's good clean fun. If you care at all about story, you want decently high speech as Decker says. The biggest problem with trying to follow the story is that by the time you start LR, many of your choices are now gone based on how you played the rest of the game. You become stuck in a particular role with little or no chance to change it... so I just simply kill 'em all and let God sort it out.

 

samoja
samoja's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 months 4 weeks ago
Joined: 10/25/2017 - 18:02
Karma: 36
I have a theory, well just a

I have a theory, well just a thought experiment to be able to fit TTW into regular storyline. what if, bear with me, what if Ulysses is insane, what if it was in fact Ulysses that delivered the detonator to the divide, and he was so shattered with the result that he repressed the whole thing. What if Ulysses was going by the same call sign/serial number/name as you (i doubt Ulysses is his real name) and when he saw your name it jogged his memory, but it was fractured, he  knew that the Courier by this name destroyed the only place he called home, but he did not remember that he was that Courier, instead blaming it on you. Would explain why you don´t know anything about the Divide.

Decker
Decker's picture
Offline
Last seen: 1 hour 12 min ago
Joined: 12/04/2012 - 10:15
Karma: 126
Blaming Ulysses for FNV main

Blaming Ulysses for FNV main protagonists past accidental mistakes (before the events of FNV) may seem like the easy way out for some players, but the in-game evidence does not support this, IMHO. Ulysses obviously has his share of mental problems from all the messed up stuff he has experienced as a (former) Legion frumentarii, but severe memory loss, false memories, or delusional hallucinations are not among them. Ulysses seems like a very strong willed person, potentially ready to kill an entire nation or two for a chance to bring about a better world - Courier can meet this challenge in a variety of different ways, try to rope Ulysses back into sanity with words, or put him out of his misery with bullets; Also it is possible to nuke one of, both or neither of NCR and Caesars Legion. During this confrontation of two couriers at the end of the Divide, the fate of entire nations hangs in the balance, the very defining moment of the entire DLC - As significant event in the overall story arc, or even more significant, than the Second Battle of Hoover Dam.

Also consider that Ulysses did not get a 9mm parabellum bullet through his brain, he did not receive unhygienic amateur brain surgery in a maryland swamp, nope, did not get his brain scooped out and stuffed back into the cranium by a bunch of mad scientists - If anything, the Lone Wanderer/Courier seems like an extremely more likely candidate for memory loss and any other brain trauma related mental problems (take your pick).