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FO4 DLCs ideas and assumptions

I am making this post for people to talk about what they think FO4 DLCs will be about or what they would like to see in a FO4 DLC.

I have this idea that we will see a Moon related DLC, where the Main Character will travel to the moon for some reason and explore a moon base of some kind, and will fight new enemies (possible Aliens, Chinese or even maybe Russians).

Now you might be thinking from where did I came of with such weird idea. It is all because in FO4 there is a mural depicting major battles that the USA fought and there is a moon battle in that mural... Why would Bethesda include a moon battle when never in any other Fallout game or lore was mentioned anything close to the USA having a moon battle, why would be the point of making something like that come out of the blue and for no reason at all? Not even FO4 tells us anything about it, and it certainly seems like a Bethesda easter egg for future content if you ask me.

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I liked DLCs with complete

I liked DLCs with complete new locations like in Point Lookout. I hope we get something like that.

I have no clue where this location should be though. Maybe something like Point Lookout. Swampy and with degenerates.

Your idea with a Moon DLC is interesting and not so unlikely.

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I'm really wanting a "return

I'm really wanting a "return to DC" DLC and Ronto or New York 

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I don't suppose it would be
I don't suppose it would be that feasible given the location of this one, but I'd like to see a return to the West Coast eventually. The first few games were set there but none of the first person games have been and it would be kind of cool to revisit the area where it all started and see how the NCR is doing in it's efforts to recivilize the wasteland to its own advantage.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't "New Vegas" set in the West? 

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In case anyone doesn't know

In case anyone doesn't know where Rise is talking about, here's the mural in the Museum of Freedom:

It's the last depiction of battle throughout America's (in Fallout's timeline, at least) military history from the Revolutionary war starting on the left, moving to WWII, and then...speculation?

Interesting to note is that the power armor that's depicted in the mural is the T-51b which Bethesda decided to retcon to be a less advanced model than the T-60. Assuming that the mural would be up to date, it would seem weird to project the future of America's military victories with an older model of PA.

PA was developed relatively late during the prewar timeline (2066-2067), though and with all of the other stuff going on in the world it would be really, really hard to casually slip in a 'major moon battle' or connect it to the rest of prewar history. 

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New York is probably a place

New York is probably a place big enough for FO5 rather than a DLC. But a trip to Norfolk to get a replacement core for the airship is possihble. A trip to Canada such as Montreal should be plausible too. Those French speaking Canadian ghouls will have a hard time because those smooth-skins thought any ghouls who can't speak English are feral ^^

But for a FO game in Massachusetts, I can't believe it doesn't include something like "Boston tea party" (how about Boston Jet/purified water party, the railroad/minutemen disguised as native raiders destroyed an entire shipment of purified water sent by the Brotherhood/Institute) or the first post-war thanksgiving party to celebrate the first completed settlement, the "war" between MIT and Harvard ...... so much about Boston can be play with and they didn't do it.

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How far east do we go before
How far east do we go before we're no longer on the West COAST? Colorado? Kansas? But, never mind.
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rockitten wrote:

rockitten wrote:

But for a FO game in Massachusetts, I can't believe it doesn't include something like "Boston tea party" (how about Boston Jet/purified water party, the railroad/minutemen disguised as native raiders destroyed an entire shipment of purified water sent by the Brotherhood/Institute) or the first post-war thanksgiving party to celebrate the first completed settlement, the "war" between MIT and Harvard ...... so much about Boston can be play with and they didn't do it.

I don't see it. There are tons of references in the game to Massachusetts and its history.

The Minutemen literally look like they're out of the Revolutionary War period and even carry cumbersome and nonsensical laser 'muskets.' They're one of the first factions you're introduced to and as such, do a lot to create your first overall impression of the game and its style. The fight through the Museum of Freedom is a goofy, over-the-top barrage of images and history having mostly to do with Massachusetts and the founding of the country. 

You can get a 'Revolutionary Sword' and a weapon that fires cannonballs. One of the hairstyles for men is a short ponytail, fashioned off of a powdered wig. John Hancock is in Goodneighbor. 

The Railroad is a not unsubtle at all nod to the same-named organization or movement to smuggle slaves into the North, which included Massachusetts.

The game would have been stronger without such obvious references to the Revolutionary War period. None of it feels appropriate or even interesting. It doesn't really even make sense because the war happened in late 2077, a year after the nation's tricentennial - which the banners in Concord apparently are still celebrating.

Bethesda doesn't care about Fallout's history. They choose to focus on pre-war, the bombs, and now. It's like the 200+ years of 'since then' don't even matter for anything in the world or for anyone. I'm sure that Bethesda would have liked to have included even more references to pre-war history, like the Boston tea party if it meant not having to come up with something original or new for a game that takes place in 2287.

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TrickyVein wrote:Interesting

TrickyVein wrote:

Interesting to note is that the power armor that's depicted in the mural is the T-51b which Bethesda decided to retcon to be a less advanced model than the T-60.

While still somehow only looking like a souped up T-45.

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Nofsdad wrote:

Nofsdad wrote:

How far east do we go before we're no longer on the West COAST? Colorado? Kansas? But, never mind.

Having lived in California for 30 years I'd say that Vegas is technically the south west and not the west coast....

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your right I glossed over

your right I glossed over "Coast" only read "West"! 

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By looking closer to that

By looking closer to that mural picture Tricky posted, I assume that the T-51b image is the Anchorage War, because it seems to have the giant cannons that the chinese used to bombard the USA on the background. So it seems that the moon battle happened before the Anchorage War .

The Wikia mentions a moon battle but doesn't say where they got the info from...

At an unknown point in history, an armed conflict occurred on the Moon, with combat known to have taken place in the region of the Mare Tranquillitatis (Sea of Tranquility) lunar mare. The United States fought in the war against unknown enemies, and it is implied that the Americans won the conflict.

I don't think Bethesda would make a back to Washington DC DLC because if they do people will complain that the map is not as big as in FO3 (unless they only make it happen in the actual DC area and have no wasteland around it, or they make a giant map which is not a Bethesda DLC style), and exploration of the map was the best thing in FO3.

It would be cool if they did DLCs that happened in other cities around that area, as long as the map wasn't as small as they did in The Pitt... I still wish someone would open that DLC more and allow exploration of the surrounding areas after one beats the main quest (and it would be a nice thing to have in a DLC, beat the main quest and get more areas just for exploration, combat and rewards/goodies).

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Just had a idea!

Just had a idea!

They should bring the Enclave from Fallout 3 back. Enclave invaded the Moon or something. Also bring back Tesla Power Armor hahaha.

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I'd prefer Hellfire.

I'd prefer Hellfire.

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Why not both? ;) I liked the

Why not both? ;) I liked the Hellfire Armor aswell. I think it was the most powerful power armor in the game. Or maybe T-51. Not entirely sure here. TTW makes some changes to the armors anyway I think. Names, Def value and that stuff.

I like the look of the Tesla Armor more though. Both NV Mark I and FO3 Mark II Version of it or X-01/X-02? Wish there would be some clear classifications and names but since FO4 doesnt have the FO3 Enclave Armors we will never know.

I mostly just wear the Gannon Family Tesla Armor in later games of FNV.

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Faction Quest Expansion like

Faction Quest Expansion like Broken Steel, but for all Factions on Fallout 4.  Kind of a "Post" Ending series of quest.  Examples the quest lines based on what faction ending you finished the game with.    

BOS could be a "Conquest" more so than liberation of the Wasteland and perhaps a way to destroy the Minutemen and take control of all their assets you can say.  

Minutemen some tweaks to the Random Gen Quest so they're not as annoying and some attempts to form a united Government among all the Settlements.  ie creating a Commenwealth Government, of course with the Minutemen as it's army.  

Institute, series of quest the PC can take to decide the future of the Institute and mold it into something unique to themselves.  Including coming out of their hole and possibly helping the Commonwealth (if you choose) and the option to go all BOS style conquest.   Personally the Institute had the most neutral ending, so some unique post story quest spin would be nice, something that actually gives you choices.  

Railroad, Liberating Vending Machines.  

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Bigger Mural picture:

 

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Having lived in CA for 73

Having lived in CA for 73 years, I consider the west coast to be those states that are actually on the coast which would be WA, OR and CA. 

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Bethsoft's time would be

Bethsoft's time would be better spent doing a DLC that is a basically a giant patch, adding back left-out features (hardcore mode etc.), fixing bugs (numerous, esp. lip synch), and improving/adding to the plot.

But they have too much pride to ever do that.  Too bad.  Probably some lame underwater city or something.

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Well, broken steel was a

Well, broken steel was a patch in a way, adding in some high-level content, and fixing the obvious plot-hole in the vanilla ending. So I will hold out hope for maybe some changes for the better.

 

Personally though, the bugs are the problem of least concern to me in this game. They are so much fewer and farther between than Fo3/NV or Skyrim. (especially any of those games at launch). I just want everything else fixed  *sigh*.

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thermador wrote:

thermador wrote:

But they have too much pride to ever do that.  Too bad.  Probably some lame underwater city or something.

Fallout needs a "Lame Underwater City!" That's the only thing missing! 

If you haven't noticed FO4 merged in "Boarderlands", "Mine Craft", Now we need a little "Bioshock" to make the Fallout experience complete. 

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chucksteel wrote:

chucksteel wrote:

 

thermador wrote:

But they have too much pride to ever do that.  Too bad.  Probably some lame underwater city or something.

 

Fallout needs a "Lame Underwater City!" That's the only thing missing! 

If you haven't noticed FO4 merged in "Boarderlands", "Mine Craft", Now we need a little "Bioshock" to make the Fallout experience complete. 

I can already see Big Daddy Power Armor:

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I want to see a western

I want to see a western extension into the glowing sea. There is plenty of unused area and if we want to be scientific the fallout from the blast would travel west further due to wind from the ocean in the east. Maybe some big plot about those Children of Atom dipshits or something to do with a really big deathclaw. Maybe both!

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prettygrayt wrote:

prettygrayt wrote:

...if we want to be scientific the fallout from the blast would travel west further due to wind from the ocean in the east.

Well, since you opened up this can of worms, practically speaking, what would it matter how a 200 year old Fallout plume was shaped? The glowing sea shouldn't even exist anymore.

Still, it's Fallout which follows its own rules and doubly, Bethesda's magic, and the Glowing Sea was one of the cooler areas in the game.

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What about China? I know

What about China? I know sounds weird, but hear me out. There is a quest in the game where you restore an old Chinese submarine to working condition, but said submarine never actually departs. The Captain of the submarine intends to return to China "soon" to look for survivors help rebuild. The DLC could be set in a relatively small area, possibly a single city like Hong Kong or Shanghai. China is a major part of Fallout's lore, but we know very little about what it was like pre-war, and nothing about what it islike post-war. 

For those players who opted to murder the ship captain, the DLC could still be triggered thought some sort of automated piloting program. Just an idea for what I think would be cool, though highly unlikely. 

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EnderDragonFire wrote:

EnderDragonFire wrote:

 

What about China? I know sounds weird, but hear me out. There is a quest in the game where you restore an old Chinese submarine to working condition, but said submarine never actually departs. The Captain of the submarine intends to return to China "soon" to look for survivors help rebuild. The DLC could be set in a relatively small area, possibly a single city like Hong Kong or Shanghai. China is a major part of Fallout's lore, but we know very little about what it was like pre-war, and nothing about what it islike post-war. 

For those players who opted to murder the ship captain, the DLC could still be triggered thought some sort of automated piloting program. Just an idea for what I think would be cool, though highly unlikely. 

#1 Hong Kong is not China and the locals will fight you over it.

#2 Fallout outside the USA loses its main thematic guide (the 'retro-future Jetsons-esque Americana gone wrong' thing).

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The only Fallout I could see

The only Fallout I could see outside of the USA would be in Canada because it was annexed by the USA so it would probably be converted to the same Americana has the "real" USA and that is stretching it a bit .

But to be honest Bethesda Fallout is so outlandish compared to old ones that I can see they having a meeting to decide how to spoil it even more... Erm I mean how to evolve it even more and someone will shout "Make a Fallout in Cuba or something."