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Fallout 4 DLC announced!

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So, basically 1 & 2 sounds

So, basically 1 & 2 sounds like a game play fix (which should be in place from day one) abnd 3 is a new land quest DLC?

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looks like it, The article

looks like it, The article sounded like 1 & 2 were all about crafting and Settlement stuff where 3 is a new land in Maine. 

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I appreciate that the

I appreciate that the crafting and settlement building expansions are separate DLCs because I don't want either of them.

Maine is going to be full of gimmicky, unimaginative references to what a 3rd grader knows about the region: lobsters, whaling, ships! Oh, and we get to deal with the same, tired factions: synths, the children of atom and empty shells of 'townspeople.' They'll probably bring back more characters from Fallout 3, too.

This DLC doesn't interest me. The game needs more official overhauls of its game mechanics, like adding needs to survival mode before I give more money to Bethesda.

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They should have gone south

They should have gone south to Aberdeen, Maryland.  I agree, who cares about Maine when it comes to Fallout other than those who live there.  As for the home DLC, I hope it is Build-a-Vault stuff instead of having to have the GECK to build a vault.

What Bethesda did to Fallout 4 kind of reminds me when Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (TMNT) went from rated R to rated G.  TMNT was a very violent comic then RPG by Palladium Books long before what we see on TV/Movies today. 

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DLC's one and two sound like

DLC's one and two sound like things you can get for free by way of mods on the Nexus and they are charging $5-$10 for them. How disappointing.

The third DLC sounds like they are just trying to recreate Point Lookout plus they are charging $24.99 for it? And jacking up the price of the Season Pass to $49.99? Screw that.

 

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Given the base Fallout 4 game

Given the base Fallout 4 game, and the DLC's they announced, it is no surprise that they used comic book covers.

Thanks god for mods, especially all the rebalancing ones. 

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Content DLC, we are going

Content DLC, we are going full circle to Horse Armor again soon .

Now without joking, when I saw the first two "magazine covers" I thought it was a joke and someone made them to "make fun" of FO4 lack of good writing... I really did, I am not joking... I mean...

"Robots, robots and more robots. Even build your own! AUTOMATRON" and "Build your own arena of death while redecorating your home. Wasteland Workshop" how ridiculous does that sound? those seem like someone went and put effort into it to "make fun" of future DLC ideas by creating some really bad ones...

I really can't explain, I woke up too early today and can't communicate yet.

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Seriously Rise, I thought

Seriously Rise, I thought they were joke covers for your Reading is Learning project until i checked the link...

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I think there going to try to

I think there going to try to milk the DLC this time around. We see two Fluff DLC and one remake of PL at the moment. I'm betting there are about 5 fluff in the works and 3-6 other DLC. 

I'm still expecting an, Underwater city, a remake of Mothership Zeta, and a return to DC.  

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So since Paid Mods didn't

So since Paid Mods didn't stick yet, they go and make their own mod copy and sell it themselves as DLC (Robco Certified mod).

I wonder what other popular mods for the past games they will turn into DLCs, well played Bethesda, well played.

Also:

"Become more powerful with new, higher-level armor and weapons. The choices are all yours."

I hope they optimize the difficulty of the game because from what I heard you are pretty much a machine of mass destruction around level 30 already on vanilla FO4.

Higher level armors? wait there will be better armors than the whatever X-something PA now?

And there will be choices now?

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The console players will hail

The console players will hail them for being so innovative and making such cool DLC.

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RoyBatty wrote:

RoyBatty wrote:

 

The console players will hail them for being so innovative and making such cool DLC.

They already are. An article on Kotaku about it has several comments along the lines of "can't wait!"

/sigh

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read some of this! Nexus

read some of this! Nexus Thread.  

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So far 2 semi-blah DLC that

So far 2 semi-blah DLC that seem more like monitized Mods, and 1 storyline DLC/new area.

Now let's look at what I'd consider the standard for new lands DLC in Fallout3/NV:

Point Lookout, and Old World Blues. Both offered fully new areas to explore and where constructed with exploration in mind, both of which where $9.99 at release, Far Harbor is coming in at $24.99?! If Far Harbor isn't at least HALF as large as the Commonwealth world map, and packed with places to see and things to do, I think I may well be finished with Bethesda as a company. Bethesda has placed the bar from "Hurdles" to a "High Jump Bar" they best not screw this up.

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AnvilOfWar wrote:

AnvilOfWar wrote:

 

So far 2 semi-blah DLC that seem more like monitized Mods, and 1 storyline DLC/new area.

Now let's look at what I'd consider the standard for new lands DLC in Fallout3/NV:

Point Lookout, and Old World Blues. Both offered fully new areas to explore and where constructed with exploration in mind, both of which where $9.99 at release, Far Harbor is coming in at $24.99?! If Far Harbor isn't at least HALF as large as the Commonwealth world map, and packed with places to see and things to do, I think I may well be finished with Bethesda as a company. Bethesda has placed the bar from "Hurdles" to a "High Jump Bar" they best not screw this up.

Personally, I won't buy those DLCs until the "golden edition" was released and being discounted as low as ~$30 a copy. Let's wish Bethesda won't be such a jerk a Bioware (releasing "Shepard edition with only ME1 to 3 but no DLC included)

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Looking at the promotional

Looking at the promotional art for Far Harbor - the spookily-styled title - through the lens of interpreting what they write in the DLC's description '...where higher levels of radiation have created a more feral world' to mean lots, and lots of feral ghouls, I'm thinking that it's a zombie DLC. 

I'm sure it will be very atmospheric, and we might get some more interesting art for waves crashing against rocks and storms. 

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I agree Roy, I just want to

I agree Roy, I just want to hurl to those who want to bow to Todd Howard and make pictures of him being God.  I guess he can be herald as the one who turned Fallout into a kid's game.

I also agree Tricky, probably a lot of Feral Ghouls and ZPOC like.  Everyone one else is getting on board with the ZPOC, why not Bethesda?

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 Well I'm sort of glad that I

 Well I'm sort of glad that I decided after a long internal debate to bite the bullet and purchase the season pass when it was first made available. Looks like it may have been the cheapest option if indeed I wanted to play the game and any DCLs right away as they became available.

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I don't hate the game or what

I don't hate the game or what they are doing that much, I'll play it and enjoy it like I did the main game. It was worth the price, but I won't play it endlessly like the previous games unless some major mods come out.

Zombie DLC would be so lame... CoD anyone? I wonder if that's why they decided to shift ghouls to be more zombie like instead of freakish former humans with extended lifespans.

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And don't forget boys and

And don't forget boys and girls you only have until March 1 to get the season pass before the price goes up.

If life is but a test, where's the damn answer key?!?!?

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Yeah I caved and bought it,

Yeah I caved and bought it, they better not pull a gearbox.

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RoyBatty wrote:

RoyBatty wrote:

 

Yeah I caved and bought it, they better not pull a gearbox.

They will pull a Bethesda instead . Whatever that means we will only find out when all the DLCs are out.

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So.... in the disappointed

So.... in the disappointed section I wrote on how they had to just look at what they had before and take what was popular on Nexus and incorporate it in the main game.... Polish it, or even leave the option for improvement (moders to make it just better). I guess they did this so far...... just they are going to make money off it rather than the paid mods ordeal, I don't blame them it's just good business, but when is the survival part going to be a dlc (because that could be 4th DLC right away)? I already bought the season pass when I preordered the game. Don't get me wrong 3 vs 4... 4 gets a 70-75 rating for me and striaght out of the box 4 is better playing, just the story lines suck. So far none of this DLC really grabs my attention, just little add-ons like horse armor or GRA for NV, just wish GRA was a little more compatible with the stock game and level list. 

So... leaves me to the next question.... SO when New Vegas 2 comes out in 2 years maybe 3, will the final DLC for that be...... a parody of TTW2 DLC? LOL just shouting it out. Just thinking and saying..... what if....and I'm assuming that the geck probably won't be out for a while so no one gets a jump on them making small DLC, but then again they have to make it compatible for console to so maybe there is something they are working out. All in all I think Chuck is barking up the right tree. The cow is going to get milked....Hard, but I won't mind it if there is a lot of content added, like different ghouls (night ghouls that come out at night ect), weapons... New weapons... lots of new weapons, clothing, and different power armor. This is why I bought the season pass for when the moding picks up, I should have all the content.....should! Well I hope for the best, maybe I'll start playing again, lately Dying light and TTW moded is all I've been playing. Hopefully something good happened to 4.

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RoyBatty wrote:

RoyBatty wrote:

 

Yeah I caved and bought it, they better not pull a gearbox.

FYI, STEAM does not allow us to buy the DLC pass without a FO4 registered, so users are not allowed to "stockpile" a DLC pass now and purchase a discounted FO4 later.....

 

What's an a$$ hole

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rockitten wrote:

rockitten wrote:

 

RoyBatty wrote:

 

Yeah I caved and bought it, they better not pull a gearbox.

 

FYI, STEAM does not allow us to buy the DLC pass without a FO4 registered, so users are not allowed to "stockpile" a DLC pass now and purchase a discounted FO4 later.....

 

What's an a$$ hole

Ok true maybe for Steam but the season pass can be purchased from other places like GreenMan Gaming. They will provide you a code and you can then activate it on Steam whenever you want. So I'm guessing you can buy the pass now and then the actual game later. Or at least I did not see anything on the GreenMan Gaming site where you were required to already own FO4 in order to purchase the pass... Or maybe I just didn't see it though I did look...

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Royhr wrote:

Royhr wrote:

 

rockitten wrote:

 

RoyBatty wrote:

 

Yeah I caved and bought it, they better not pull a gearbox.

 

FYI, STEAM does not allow us to buy the DLC pass without a FO4 registered, so users are not allowed to "stockpile" a DLC pass now and purchase a discounted FO4 later.....

 

What's an a$$ hole

 

Ok true maybe for Steam but the season pass can be purchased from other places like GreenMan Gaming. They will provide you a code and you can then activate it on Steam whenever you want. So I'm guessing you can buy the pass now and then the actual game later. Or at least I did not see anything on the GreenMan Gaming site where you were required to already own FO4 in order to purchase the pass... Or maybe I just didn't see it though I did look...

They also sell the pass on Amazon and at several brick and mortar stores like Target and Best Buy. It's just a key that you can enter into steam after you do finally purchase the game (but not before.)

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Lyndi wrote:

Lyndi wrote:

 

Royhr wrote:

 

rockitten wrote:

 

RoyBatty wrote:

 

Yeah I caved and bought it, they better not pull a gearbox.

 

FYI, STEAM does not allow us to buy the DLC pass without a FO4 registered, so users are not allowed to "stockpile" a DLC pass now and purchase a discounted FO4 later.....

 

What's an a$$ hole

 

Ok true maybe for Steam but the season pass can be purchased from other places like GreenMan Gaming. They will provide you a code and you can then activate it on Steam whenever you want. So I'm guessing you can buy the pass now and then the actual game later. Or at least I did not see anything on the GreenMan Gaming site where you were required to already own FO4 in order to purchase the pass... Or maybe I just didn't see it though I did look...

 

They also sell the pass on Amazon and at several brick and mortar stores like Target and Best Buy. It's just a key that you can enter into steam after you do finally purchase the game (but not before.)

Thanks for the advices,  unfortunatelly, I am an Australian, our Target, EB games or K Marts don't have them ><

Seems my only way is to wait for another year until Legnadary edition ( it is not the Game of the year) is out and cheap .

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Thanks for the advices, 

Rockitten... Purchasing online like from somewhere like Greenman Gaming isn't an option for you?

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You can buy it as a gift copy

You can buy it as a gift copy, store it in your inventory, and add it to your library once you add the base game. You just cant activate it until you own the game.

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Why does everyone assume this

Why does everyone assume this is going to be Zombies? Based on the cover art and description I expected it to be more like an Island of Doctor Moreau or Jurassic Park type thing. There are giant bones on the cover art, and "Harsher more feral world" really sounds more animalistic than like zombies. One could even argue that Point Lookout foreshadowed such an expansion with it's dinosaur bones. Don't give up on it until we have seen more information. 

On another note Maine is in the far north, Point Lookout is in the south. Point Lookout is a swamp, Maine is mostly boreal forest. I don't expect there will be much in common between the two locations. This is also supposed to be the largest DLC map they ever created, which might (possibly) justify the bigger price tag. 

As for the other two, they are what they are. Nothing wrong with a  small DLC here and there. Most people liked Gun Runner's Arsenal and Hearthfire. I see no difference between those and these. 

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EnderDragonFire wrote:

EnderDragonFire wrote:

Why does everyone assume this is going to be Zombies? 

And because 'feral' is a code word to mean 'zombie' according to Bethesda, considering how they already portray feral ghouls as literally popping up out of graveyards in Fallout 4.

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I can find dozens of old

I can find dozens of old horror comics from the 1950s and 1960s with similar fonts and no zombies. As for ferals being zombies, that is simply not true in Fallout's lore. They are described as being ghouls whose brains have degenerated, in Fallout 4 as well as every other game which features them. I get that Zombies could be what this expansion is about, but it could easily be about some other sort of retro-horror trope instead.

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EnderDragonFire wrote:

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I can find dozens of old horror comics from the 1950s and 1960s with similar fonts and no zombies. As for ferals being zombies, that is simply not true in Fallout's lore. They are described as being ghouls whose brains have degenerated, in Fallout 4 as well as every other game which features them. I get that Zombies could be what this expansion is about, but it could easily be about some other sort of retro-horror trope instead.

People say that because of this line in the description: "Travel off the coast of Maine to the mysterious island of Far Harbor, where higher levels of radiation have created a more feral world."

It's an island with a Synth colony (that is there for no well explained reason) and there are going to be a ton of Ghouls.

Bethesda has ruined ghouls with Fallout 4 imo. They do spring up out of graves and act like zombies in pretty much every way. They lay around on the floor with corpses and only rise up when you are nearby for crying out loud. Bethesda wants them to be zombies without actually being zombies. Zombie was always a derogatory term used for ghouls in FO3 and such anyway by some of the NPC's. I guess Bethesda just took the next step by making them act more like zombies in FO4.

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EnderDragonFire wrote:

EnderDragonFire wrote:

As for ferals being zombies, that is simply not true in Fallout's lore.

You're exactly right. Someone should notify Bethesda. 

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All I know is that we can't

All I know is that we can't start that DLC unless we play and get involved with Valentine's detective agency, so we will be forced to play in a certain way so we can access the DLC world.

Also the trail of a missing girl will lead you to Far Harbor... Point Lookout had the missing Nadine we would look for... Dejá Vu.

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Well, I hope you guys are

Well, I hope you guys are wrong and this DLC is not about Zombies. You might be right though. I hope not.  

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@Ender, the more I read about

@Ender, the more I read about it, it sounds like Zombies which would make sense since the FONV Zombie mods were popular and genre overall is popular with TWD, FTWD, and WWZ.  Personally, I think it should be dangerous Aliens you would see in XCOM or Aliens, but probably not?

Is this supposed leaked survival mode going to be enough for you all?  

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I play fallout more for the

I play fallout more for the 1950s retro-future aspects than for the post-apocalyptic aspecrs. Although I thoroughly enjoy both aspects and am looking forward to survival mode. I hope to see both Zeta/OWB style content, as well as Honest Hearts/The Pitt style content. Some zany stuff, some serious stuff. IF they do go for the Zombie thing, I hope they go more with the classic Romero style Zombies than the modern ones. It would fit better with the 1950s theme of the Fallout franchise. 

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Looks like bethesda confirmed

Looks like bethesda confirmed the leak of Survival mode on their twitter, although they say they're still testing it. 

This is the description they dug out of the game's help file for the "leak".  Sounds pretty good to me:

 

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It's funny that a Feature

It's funny that a Feature from FO3/NV makes it into Hardcore when it should have been in the base game. 

"Crippled Limbs
Crippled limbs will no longer auto-heal after combat and will remain crippled until healed by a Stimpak."

Wonder if there going to just do it like the FO4 mod did or if there going to bring back the interface where you can choose which limb to heal?

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Those things look good with

Those things look good with the exception of save only when sleep (lets just say I see many people say the game is prone to frequent crashes so if you haven't slept for one real world hour and then crash... there goes that hour) and the Adrenaline Perk (in a difficulty mode that is supposed to make it harder to survive, make the player gain magic damage buffs seems like it will make it even easier to kill enemies because: We can already increase the damage of our character like crazy in FO4, the survival mode already increases the damage the player deals on top of that and then the Adrenaline Perk will increase the damage even more... Sounds to me that is there just to hide the fact that enemies are still bullet sponges so they just increase the damage so much it will feel like the enemies are normal HP or something).

 

I would have liked that Survival mode would go even further, reducing all the bonus damage % given by perks to half their  value, disable some Power Armors in the world, make the power cores way more expensive and rare, make ammo more rare too, increase the cost of everything in the game by maybe 300 to 500%, make sneak way harder, make companions die permanently, etc.

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I'm really kind of surprised.

I'm really kind of surprised. Survival mode sounds pretty great, except for the not being able to save whenever bit.

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I don't even see how they can

I don't even see how they can enforce that when console commands will still work.

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I don't even see how they can enforce that when console commands will still work.

They can't on PC but then that's been the case with pretty much everything. People playing on the consoles and such are kinda stuck with whatever Bethesda gives them though. If Bethesda says players can't save when they want to in this mode then it's just another reason I'm glad I play on the PC.

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The mode will almost

The mode will almost certainly be toggle-able. Just switch it off the save, and then back on for normal gameplay. 

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Sort of glad that I didn't

Sort of glad that I didn't buy a season pass as I'm completely uninterested in the robot and crafting DLCs, but I'll surely buy Far Harbor.

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Well I did buy the season

Well I did buy the season pass and I still think that since I bought when it was first made available will be well worth it over the long haul. But maybe not now that they jacked the price up to almost double the original price.

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Far harbor as a single DLC

Far harbor as a single DLC costs about as much as the season pass did before the price was hiked up. I'm sure glad I did buy the season pass before then if that's what they're going to charge for DLCs in the future.

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They'll charge 4.99 each in

They'll charge 4.99 each in five years, which is not only when I'll buy them, but also when I'll have a computer good enough to run them.

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@TrickyVein I am personally

@TrickyVein I am personally trying really hard to think positive about the DLC. They have said that Far Harbor will be larger than any other DLC they have ever made for their games. I am hoping that maybe it will have enough content to justify that outrageous price. If it has at least two-thirds the same amount of content as the base game, the price would actually be reasonable. 

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